•   almost 4 years ago

Foster VS Head Start & Homeless/Migrant/Runaway

I'm a little confused about the skip logic based on these statuses. There seems to be conflicting information between the household scenario matrix & the latest office hour.

1. From household scenario matrix:
"A household that does not participate in an assistance program, where there are five children, two are a foster children, one is a Head Start participant, one is both a foster and Head Start participant, and one is a confirmed runaway. The required information is the children’s names, student status, each child’s status as foster/runaway/Head Start (as applicable), contact information, and an adult’s signature and date."

2. From Feb 1's office hour session:
"If the application is being completed for children who meet the description of "homeless," "migrant," or "runaway," or "Head Start participant," OR where some but not all of the children are foster children – all steps of the application must still be completed."

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Consider a household with 3 kids (1 foster + 1 head start + 1 migrant) who doesn't participate in assistance programs.

If I understand this correctly, #1 says that the applicant does not need to fill out adult names, household income, total household members, & SSN because all the children meet one of the statuses. Foster, head start, and homeless/migrant/runaway statuses are treated as equal factors.

However, #2 seems to imply the opposite (applicant needs to fill out adult names, etc.) because not all the children have foster status. Foster status is treated separately from head start & homeless/migrant/runaway statuses. Applicant can only skip if ALL children have foster status, regardless of the other statuses.

Which one is it?

  • 7 comments

  •   •   almost 4 years ago

    Any updates on this?

  • Manager   •   almost 4 years ago

    Hi Raymon,

    Not yet, but I expect to have an answer for you this week.

    Serena

  •   •   almost 4 years ago

    Thank you, Serena. Appreciate your help on this.

  • Manager   •   almost 4 years ago

    Hi Raymon,

    I've got an answer for you!

    The first scenario you described from the scenario matrix was interpreted correctly – a household with 3 kids (1 foster + 1 head start + 1 migrant) that doesn't participate in assistance programs would not need to fill out adult names, household income, total household members, & SSN because all the students meet one of the categorical statuses.

    The second scenario, however, is a bit more complicated. If all of the school age children in the household fall under the status of “foster,” “migrant,” “homeless,” “runaway,” or “Head Start participant,” then all children are eligible for free meals and the applicant is not required to enter adult names, household income, total household members or SSN. Also, the Q&A from the Feb.1 Office Hours can be found here: http://lunchux.devpost.com/details/webinar_qa2.

    Best,
    Serena

  •   •   almost 4 years ago

    Serena,

    Thanks for following up. The quote I included in my original post is actually from Jan 14, not Feb 1--apologies for the confusion.

    I'm still a little unclear with your answer, because both the scenarios you described are the same: all students in the household fall under one or more of the categorical statuses (including foster).

    Could you confirm that the statements below are correct?

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    The household matrix is correct.

    The applicant can skip adult names, household income, total household members, & SSN if:
    1. ALL the children in the household are students, and
    2. ALL the children fall under ONE OR MORE categorical statuses: foster, head start, migrant/homeless/runaway.

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    Thanks,
    Raymon

  • Manager   •   almost 4 years ago

    Yes, Raymon. I believe that is correct. If any of the students are NOT foster, head start, etc. and the applicant is applying for free/discounted meals for THAT student, then they'd need to complete the full form. Otherwise, you're right.

    I hope that helps!
    Serena

  •   •   almost 4 years ago

    Sounds good, thank you for the quick response, Serena!

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